EP14: How can Brands make Passive Income? – TOP 3 BRAND ADVICE W/ SHARON TSEUNG (+ BRANDED VIDEO TIPS)
(From a Youtuber, Blogger, and TikToker’s perspective)
- Listen in to hear Sharon Tseung’s TOP 3 tips and advice on. branding and business. Sharon Tseung teaches people how to make passive income towards financial freedom through her blog, YouTube channel, TikTok, and Instagram. She has been featured on Yahoo Finance, Bustle, Fast Company, and other notable websites. In the past, she graduated from UC Berkeley and worked in Marketing for 9 years at Google and other startups. Sharon quit her job and traveled the world as a digital nomad for 2 years, all while growing over 8 passive income streams. First 5 listeners 20% off my real estate investing course Remote Rental Riches! Could use promo code BRANDINGGEMS20
- TOPICS WE DISCUSS: Niching Down Tips, Why Niching Down is Connected to Passive Income, Delegating Video Work, Is Outsourcing Worth it, Outsource Transition, Brand Consistency Tips in Video, Repurposed Content Benefits, Stand out on Youtube and TikTok, Brand Video Content Ranking Tips, Evergreen Purpose and Benefits, Emoji Benefits, Converting TikTok Audience to Youtube, Building Relationship with your Audience, Maximizing Clubhouse, Clubhouse Benefits for Brand Building, Clubhouse Tips
TRANSCRIPTION:
First tip: 0:05:19.5
Second tip: 0:12:53.9
Third tip: 0:24:29.1
[0:00:00.0] Sharon: That’s why it’s important to think about that funnel, right? If you bring them to Instagram and YouTube, they get more of your personality, they get more of the information, more detailed, and then they will become a true fan, and that’s very important. You can have as many followers as you want, but making sure you have a thousand or a hundred true fans is very crucial.
[0:00:22.3] Peggy: You’re listening to the Branding Gems podcast, a podcast that’s not just interviews and conversations. It’s to bring you guys the best of the best women in branding and business to answer this question: What are your top three valuable tips and lessons that you learned along the way? And then, we discuss it. To fuel your passion-filled lifestyle business, I promise to bring you the best of the best women in branding and business and together, we can grow and learn from the extracted advice that they provide. I’m Peggy Bree, and let’s get growing!
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Hello! Welcome back to another episode of Branding Gems. I have an awesome guest today to share her top three tips and advice, so make sure you stay tuned for the whole episode to hear it all. So today, we have an amazing guest that I met on Clubhouse. Her name is Sharon, and Sharon Tseung teaches people how to make passive income towards financial freedom through her blog, YouTube channel, TikTok, and Instagram. She has been featured on Yahoo Finance, Bustle, Fast Company, and other notable websites. In the past, she graduated from UC Berkeley and worked in Marketing for 9 years at Google and other startups. Sharon quit her job and traveled the world as a digital nomad for 2 years, all while growing over 8 passive income streams. So welcome to this podcast, Sharon!
[0:04:20.0] Sharon: Yeah, thanks so much for having me. I’m super excited!
[0:04:23.1] Peggy: Yeah, this is fun. It’s fun that people can meet on Clubhouse and create connections, even though Clubhouse is such a new, audio-based social platform. It’s so, so accessible to meet people and to network, so this is fun!
[0:04:38.9] Sharon: Definitely. It’s a great networking tool, for sure.
[0:04:42.3] Peggy: It is. How long have you been on Clubhouse for, actually?
[0:04:45.4] Sharon: Just a couple of weeks, but I just noticed the amount of value it provides, and I think it’s a great platform that everyone should start getting on.
[0:04:53.7] Peggy: Yeah, it’s cool because even rooms that are so intimate, you can have conversations that provide so much value because rooms are so intimate and you’re listening to top industry people and hearing their tips and advice, so it’s such a good platform.
[0:05:10.1] Sharon: Yeah, definitely.
[0:05:11.6] Peggy: Yeah. So let’s get going. What are your top three tips and advice in branding and business? And we’ll start with number one.
[0:05:19.5] Sharon: For sure. So the first tip I have is definitely to niche down, so really figure out what differentiates yourself or your brand. It could be one to three things, but being super specific will really help you grow faster though. So for me, I would say the two interesting things about my brand is really being a digital nomad, like quitting my job and travelling the world for two years, as well as building passive income streams through multiple means. So I try to focus on those two different aspects with my brand, and I feel like it resonates with people because my mission’s all about designing your life, and I think those components really tie into it really well. So definitely niche down when it comes to your brand so that people really know what you’re about and you’re specific with it.
[0:06:05.8] Peggy: Mm-hmm. That’s true. Digital nomad and passive income stream is such a good match because people, if they want to enter the digital nomad lifestyle, they want to hear all these passive streams, tips, and advice and how to get there and making money in the background while you’re just travelling.
[0:06:25.0] Sharon: Yeah, definitely. I think a lot of people are interested with my brand because they want to build that financial freedom, and a lot of people have that fear of being restricted to a 9 to 5 job and being stuck in it where they’re not happy with what they’re doing and they’re going to do that until their late 60’s, so I try to make sure that people understand all the different opportunities out there. And also, when I did more content around real estate investing, a lot of my accounts blew up because I did focus a little bit more on that, so I definitely think when you are a little more specific on what you’re going to talk about, it really resonates with people, as well as when they find your brand, they can see the different things that you specialize in and they’ll think of you as an expert in the niche. So that’s very important when it comes to growing your brand.
[0:07:18.2] Peggy: Mm-hmm. And so, I guess when it comes to niching down and when you have that niche that aligns with your brand and your mission, when you choose different social platforms, how are you able to make the best out of each platform in the way that you have done?
[0:07:35.3] Sharon: Yeah, I think for my platform, I find that my short-form content did really well with my brand, but also it’s important to figure out your strengths and your passions, so for me, I find that video was really my thing and multiple people have told me to go back on YouTube because I actually used to do YouTube for music, so I used to sing and songwrite, and they’re saying like, “You should go back on YouTube and you’d also kill it on TikTok.” So I was just listening to what my peers were saying about what my strengths are, and I think it’s in line with my passions. I love creating visual content and stuff like that. But I think for someone who’s interested in writing, maybe blogging is your thing because maybe you don’t want to be behind a camera and you’re a little more shy, so it depends on your personality and what will work best for you.
[0:08:35.5] Peggy: Mm-hmm. I love that. I love that, and you’re right. When it comes to, I guess, talking about passive income streams, I think there’s so much benefits that come with producing video content on something like TikTok because TikTok is so quick for one to consume content, so when you put out information on TikTok specifically, it’s fast and it’s digestible fast as well.
[0:09:02.3] Sharon: Yeah, definitely. I think this generation’s getting lower attention span, so it’s easier to deliver that information that way.
[0:09:10.9] Peggy: It’s so true. So are you repurposing content from your YouTube videos and TikTok and, I guess, sharing the video content in that way? Or is it all separate? Is it specific to each platform?
[0:09:28.6] Sharon: So what I currently do for YouTube, I do repurpose the audio into podcasts, so that’s a great way to knock it out if you want to keep repurposing your content. You can take the audio from your YouTube, put it into podcast form, and then you can also use services like otter.ai that will do these automatic transcriptions, and I use that in order to get a transcription of the audio and put that on my blog. But it’s not completely accurate so I put a disclaimer that “This was from otter.ai, it’s not completely accurate.” But if you want the best accurate transcriptions, you might want to outsource that work and hire someone. So that way, you already knock out so many pieces of content. And then with TikTok, I do repurpose that on Reels, and then sometimes I use that to help me gauge if those topics are good for YouTube. So if I see a lot of attention on a certain topic, that helps me give content ideas for YouTube, for the longer-form content.
[0:10:31.2] Peggy: That’s so true. That’s so good to really pertain to each platform in the way that you do. And I guess another question when it comes to niching down and finding a community within your niche, what are your best tips and practices for finding that community and for building community with your niche?
[0:10:50.5] Sharon: Yeah, definitely. I mean, when I first started doing TikTok videos, for example, I was just playing around with it and seeing what would hit with my audience and was aligned with my passions. For me, I like music, I like dance, I like singing, and then I also did funny stuff for a little bit, and then I realized what worked well was when I did the financial freedom content and sometimes broaden my own personality and dance as well, so I merge some of that together and I feel like that was a little more unique with my brand. So I think, honestly, you just have to experiment with it and see what’s hitting. I have a lot of friends that are YouTubers that ended up niching down. Some were more broad, personal finance, then decided to go all in on stocks investing and that actually did really well for their brands. So if you’re looking for exponential growth and growing a lot faster, it would be best to niche down, even though sometimes it’s more fun to be more general because you can talk about all different types of topics that you’re interested in. And honestly, I still am a little more broad when it comes to that because I just like doing that, just putting out content that I want to put out. But you just got to think also about your audience, like what are they interested in you for. You know what I mean? So make sure that you’re specific with it and just experiment, see what they are liking, and then make more of that content.
[0:12:22.7] Peggy: Oh, I love that, and I love the summary that you gave to all of it because it’s so true. Niching down really comes down to how your audience will consume it best, and especially for millennials or whatever age gap you’re targeting, if a lot of them are flocking on to TikTok to consume that type of content, producing it more makes so much sense in that space.
[0:12:47.1] Sharon: Yeah, definitely.
[0:12:48.9] Peggy: Love that. And so, what is your tip number two?
[0:12:53.9] Sharon: Yeah, so my tip number two, it’s pretty simple, but maintain a similar look across the board. So if you are on all these different platforms, have the same username so people aren’t confused. Like for me, I use my full name, Sharon Tseung, and I put that as my username across all my social channels. For my profile pic, I have that headshot with the yellow background now as my thing. But also, like my colors and my fonts, I have it all ready too. So I actually sent a template to my editors for my YouTube videos and I let them know like, “Hey, I want these fonts. I want these colors.” So make sure you have a recognizable brand. It just helps users understand that that’s you, even just looking at the aesthetics, and also trying to locate you, it’s easier to find you if you have the same username across the board. So just make sure everything’s consistent.
[0:13:55.4] Peggy: Mm-hmm. So I guess when people are either starting out a new project or they’re just starting out in general, finding a username is hard to find across the board, so are there any tips you would say, let’s say a user is available on Instagram and Facebook and is not available on TikTok or another platform, what tips would you have for someone who still wants that username but it’s not available? Should they continue and add the word “official”, or should they just change it completely?
[0:14:33.4] Sharon: Yeah, that was what I was about to recommend, like you probably just do “official”. Some people do underscores, but if you’re typing it out, like for example if Sharon Tseung weren’t available but then you put official behind it, they’ll probably look up Sharon Tseung and then see you, so it’s going to prompt it for people anyway. So I would definitely recommend. Well yeah, if you can, make sure it’s something that’s available across the board, for sure.
[0:15:03.5] Peggy: Mm-hmm. So true to maintain consistency and not just your brand voice or the aesthetic, but overall, just maintaining that consistency across all channels for your brand so that people can recognize you, find you, and just align themselves with you. It’s so important.
[0:15:20.9] Sharon: Yeah, definitely.
[0:15:22.4] Peggy: I love that. So you mentioned something about YouTube editors and using a tablet, so if one was to enter into the YouTube space and create content for their brand and business in that space, what kind of tips would you have in the YouTube space in that?
[0:15:39.5] Sharon: Yeah, so you mean like for hiring editors, or you mean just overall how to start?
[0:15:46.9] Peggy: Overall, and also hiring editors. How does that look like? Because I know that some people or some people that are YouTubers that I know, it’s hard for them to give up their own editing skills because they add a unique taste to it and sometimes, they would either prefer editing themselves, even though it takes up a lot of time. So how does that transition look like, to give it to an editor?
[0:16:11.1] Sharon: Yeah, for me, I looked on Upwork and I was just basically having them do a sample video. So I might give them a raw file to maybe multiple editors and see how they all edit it, and that helps me gauge if it’s in line with what I’m looking for. And if there’s an editor that takes too many revisions, then I wouldn’t hire them. It’s just too much more work because you definitely don’t want to hire an editor where you have to send a ton of feedback all the time because it ends up taking almost the same amount of time as you editing yourself. But also, if you feel that your editing is basically the part of your brand that’s really differentiating, then I might not even outsource that, if that’s your strong point. You know what I mean? I have a friend who’s really good at filming those cinematic types of videos that just look really professional, but the editing is so clean that I wouldn’t recommend that person outsourcing it, unless they’re really going to pay a lot for it and make sure that it’s in line with what they’re looking for. So sometimes, it’s not a good idea to sacrifice that if it’s such a huge part of your brand. For me, I did edit before. I did use Adobe Premiere, and I got pretty good at it, but I would say that my editors, they’re probably better than me with editing. So for me, it was actually beneficial to outsource this so that I could focus primarily on making valuable content. So it was good for me, but it really depends on if that editing is crucial for your brand.
[0:17:56.2] Peggy: That makes so much sense. If that editing, like you mentioned the whole cinematic style is part of your whole creative direction, and if you’re not able to mimic that completely yet or it’s still in that process, it would definitely make sense to continue that cinematic style so that your brand remains consistent so that people can still see you in it, and not have it be completely, I guess, blurred from someone else doing it, so I love that. It’s really good.
[0:18:34.2] Sharon: Yeah, for sure. I mean, it also depends on how much time you have as well, so if YouTube is all of your focus, then I think you can spend that time with editing. But if you are doing a bunch of different things and you want to make sure you’re focusing on the 20% that gives 80% of results, maybe the editing part is something you outsource. For me personally, it saved me so much time, and I really do think it was great for my brand, personally.
[0:19:05.1] Peggy: Mm-hmm. That makes sense. And also, when it comes to maintaining your look across channels like YouTube and other channels, what would you say, particularly YouTube, how would one stand out on YouTube, from your experience?
[0:19:24.1] Sharon: Yeah, when it comes to the visual aspect, if you are creating your thumbnails, you might want to use specific fonts, maybe a primary and a secondary font or something, and maybe a specific color that you bring back a lot of times. For example, Marko from WhiteBoard Finance, he always uses the color yellow. I can tell he’s using the Bebas font, I believe, and a lot of people try to find that look. And also, I feel like it has to be in line with your personality as well. He talked about this where his videos, he’s not that type of person with a huge personality where he’s like all in your face, talking a bunch of stuff. He’s more chill, more calm, and his thumbnails reflect that as well. It would be really weird if he had these crazy neon colors for his thumbnails, which some YouTubers like to do to stand out, right? For him, it’s more minimal and actually works really well with him because his audience knows what to expect. So just make sure that when you’re creating those thumbnails, it’s just in line with your personality.
[0:20:35.0] Peggy: Oh yeah, that’s such a great reminder for people. It’s the simple things like thumbnails and visually attracting your audience so that it’s all consistently cohesive with their brand, so that makes so much sense. And what about with titles and clickbait and words in the video titling? What is that like or what does that look like if it’s part of your branding and your business?
[0:21:00.8] Sharon: Yeah, I think for my titles, I feel like it’s a little less about branding, but I do feel like I still have it consistent based off of what I do, but what I basically do is I make sure that it’s SEO-optimized, like I’m looking for keywords to rank, but as well as making sure it’s exciting enough to click. So it’s a balance between the clickbait as well as keyword ranking because I think keyword ranking is crucial for YouTube. That’s why I focus on evergreen content, so what I mean by that is for YouTube, you could do more time-based content where maybe some event happens and you cover that event. You can get a lot of views that way. You can get it in the beginning, but then it might drift off and tank, right? So evergreen is what I’m focusing on because it’s something that’s more timeless, where if it ranks well, it gives valuable information, that can be applied to whenever you watch it, that can increase in views for a long time and still rank and do well in views, so I focus on that. Yeah, so back to the title thing, I just try to make sure I focus on the keywords, I make sure it’s exciting for people, I might throw in an emoji here and there. And another thing is maybe you’re saying like, “How to do” blank, and then you might put in parenthesis like “Five Ways” or something. That allows people to know like, “Okay, there are five things coming up so you want to make sure you’re watching through all the different points.” So that you increase your watch time with your video, which will help with your rankings. So I know I covered a lot of different things here, but yeah. [Laughter]
[0:22:50.2] Peggy: It’s so good! And what about YouTube length in terms of videos? Because obviously, sometimes there are videos that can go up to 25 minutes and 5 minutes, is this all pertaining to how your audience consumes your video content, or is it just YouTube videos in general?
[0:23:08.3] Sharon: Yeah. Well, I try to keep it concise, but I’m learning to talk a little more as well with the camera and do a little more storytelling, fit it more examples. Also with YouTube, for the mid-roll ads, you have to have it over eight minutes to have those ads, so that’s another thing to consider. But a lot of my videos, because I don’t talk that much, it’s actually under eight minutes because of just how concise I usually am and I just get straight to the point. But obviously, if you’re doing a long tutorial, I’ve had videos go to 20 minutes just because I’m going through how to use ConvertKit or something like that and I have to go through every feature of the website. So it just depends. Obviously, if people talk a lot more, they’re going to go for a long time, but the main thing is you want to make sure it continues to capture their attention so that the watch time continues to be pretty good for all your videos.
[0:24:10.6] Peggy: Wow, that’s so good! I love that you covered everything in terms of maintenance of a brand in YouTube, but full-out a breakdown of how to do that on YouTube, so it is awesome! [Laughter] And what is your final tip in branding and business?
[0:24:29.1] Sharon: Yeah, so I kind of mentioned it earlier, but I would say for brand awareness, definitely use Reels and TikTok and possibly YouTube Shorts. I haven’t experimented too much with that, but basically right now is the time to do that because the discoverability is just insane because it just spreads to so many people when you’re creating this short-form content. And also for Reels, I feel like they are promoting that feature more currently because it’s a newer feature, so they’re going to spread your video even more. I’m seeing more views on Reels actually over TikTok currently, even though I have more followers on TikTok. So I think that now is the time to maximize on that because who knows when it will get more and more saturated. For TikTok, I would say that currently, it is getting more saturated. I’m seeing my views are lowering. I just think there’s so many people getting into the space. And you should also think in terms of a marketing funnel, right? So the top level is branding, next is consideration, and then after is conversion. So for me, my funnel is the top ones are the short-form content like TikTok and Reels, and then I try to funnel them into my YouTube and my email list and stuff like that. So that’s how I think of it, so you want to make sure when it comes to brand awareness, you’re hitting these two different platforms because I really think it’s the thing right now.
[0:25:54.9] Peggy: Mm-hmm. It’s so important to really have different platforms as well because, like you mentioned, if TikTok views are getting lower, you still want to bring in and capture attention somewhere else too and capture that audience and bring them somewhere else too. So really, bringing that across all channels and, I guess, spreading it even into Reels and taking advantage of the current times of Instagram, it’s so important to be so proactive and knowing which areas have the most attention-grabbing functions when it comes to awareness or how the platform is using it because if Instagram is promoting more of their Reels, they’re obviously pushing that out more, so if you transfer content from TikTok to Reels, that makes so much sense.
[0:26:48.4] Sharon: Yeah, definitely. For me, I feel like if you get a taste of the type of content I create from just a few seconds, I don’t know if you will convert into a true fan, so that’s why I bring them onto my YouTube so that it can basically get the longer-form information that’s way more detailed and they can get too their depository of info quickly. So then, that’s why they might be more invested in me, and that’s why it’s important to think about that funnel, right? If you bring them to Instagram and YouTube, they get more of your personality, they get more of the information, more detailed, and then they will become a true fan, and that’s very important. You can have as many followers as you want, but making sure you have a thousand or a hundred true fans is very crucial.
[0:27:38.7] Peggy: That’s true, like the loyal people that know you the most and I think YouTube is a great way for people to know someone more in depth instead of quick videos. So it’s so smart to transfer the people from short digestible content to something longer like YouTube because they get to know you more and yeah, that’s a very smart point.
[0:28:07.9] Sharon: Yeah, I would even add that Clubhouse could be more on the bottom of the funnel where you get to know people even more to make them even more of a true fan. And we’re talking about that today, so I have like a YouTube mastermind thing and we’re talking about that today. Clubhouse will probably generate more of those true fans than, for example, TikTok and Reels, so that’s why you got to think in the funnels, right? You got to see how you could reach as many people, but also make them trust you more and develop a relationship with each of these people.
[0:28:42.6] Peggy: That’s true because if you think about it, Clubhouse only has the top 2% creators on there and you’re just discussing it amongst the creators. It really creates that deeper connection that people are listening in. And how do you maximize Clubhouse? How do you use it to its full capability and connecting with your audience? And what I found is that yeah, connecting through voice, when people hear you on Clubhouse and they hear you speak live and presently, it helps a lot. But what would you say how one could maximize Clubhouse to their full advantage in connecting with their audience?
[0:29:21.1] Sharon: Yeah, for sure. I think the format of the room matters a lot, so some get really messy and it doesn’t really help give value. So for me, I actually prefer the panel style, so I mean, I hosted a panel with other YouTubers where I allowed people to come on and ask some questions, and then our panel would answer, and then I would move them back down to audience level. And the reason why I liked that is that yeah, you get the one-on-one connection where all of us get to answer someone’s question and have a little conversation with them, but also we’re moving quickly so that everyone who’s listening on the side can actually gain value quickly, versus some formats where you don’t know if they’re just speaking amongst each other and not doing a Q&A, and then sometimes doing a Q&A, it’s really weird. You have to have an emcee to guide the flow of the room. So I would think that when it comes to maximizing, just try to think in terms of how much value can you deliver by creating that room and making sure that there’s a good flow when it comes to how you organize the room.
[0:30:29.6] Peggy: That’s very true because let’s say one only has five minutes of their time and they’re on Clubhouse, you want to make sure they’re soaking in the most in the five minutes of that conversation in that room, so if it’s just banter and conversations and if one, I guess, is not getting something out of it and that’s what they’re looking for, then they would just choose a different room. So to keep them engaged and listening into that conversation, you have to make sure that it is value that you’re providing for them.
[0:31:01.3] Sharon: Yeah, definitely. The fans that come in from TikTok and Reels, if you host a room and they’re in there and you just keep dropping those gems or whatever that you always say in Clubhouse where you’re just [laughter] constantly saying something really valuable, they’re going to be like, “Oh my gosh, this person knows so much. I trust what they’re saying.” So it’s very important to make sure you’re not just wasting people’s time talking about random stuff. You got to deliver that value for your audience.
[0:31:33.2] Peggy: Mm-hmm. It’s so true. Oh man, this has been so good. [Laughter] Yeah, thank you so much for being a guest!
[0:31:42.6] Sharon: Of course.
[0:31:44.2] Peggy: Yeah, what’s next for you?
[0:31:46.6] Sharon: So I guess currently, I’m still just growing my brand. I feel like that’s been the fulfilling thing for me. I enjoy teaching people how to make all these different passive income streams toward financial freedom because I mentioned earlier that a lot of people do feel stuck and they think they don’t have options, but I want to be there to show people that there are different ways they can make money. You can think about money in a different way and think about it in a sense of, not like buying a lot of things, it’s more about the freedom it creates. So that’s what my current purpose is, where I enjoy creating and I enjoy making an impact in this area, so I’m going to keep building out content on these different channels. Another thing I’m doing more of is real estate investing, so I’ve been really enjoying that side. I’ve always been interested in it since like 2012. And we’re actually launching a course called Remote Rental Riches and yeah, it’s all about how to invest out of state and I just go over step by step how to purchase properties, even if you’re not there in that location. Me and my boyfriend, we’re in escrow for another property right now, so we’re probably going to go fire on that and work with the contractors to learn the process of renovation ourselves. To me, it’s really exciting, so I want to get more immersed in it. But yeah, if you are interested, basically I can offer the first five listeners 20% off of Remote Rental Riches, so you guys can use the promo code BRANDINGGEMS20 and you guys can check out the course. It’s going to be on my website and you guys can get that step-by-step tutorial on how to invest out of state.
[0:33:44.4] Peggy: Yes, definitely go find her. She’s amazing! Yeah, she’s just so awesome to connect with, so go for it! [Laughter]
[0:33:53.5] Sharon: Awesome. Thank you so much!
[0:33:55.0] Peggy: Yeah, thanks for coming on this podcast, and we’re going to sign off now!
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